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BSIDE Rags To Rufus
Featured Artist: Rufus Feat. Chaka Khan
Featured Vinyl: RAGS TO RUFUS
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You Got the Love |
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Right Street (But The Wrong Direction) |
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CREDITS
Created and Hosted by Alexis Naylor
Co-Host: Sam Timmerman
Music by Alexis Naylor & Ruby Miguel
Voiceover: Ruby Miguel
Edited and Produced by Ruby Miguel
00:09 -
Welcome to B-Side, the mini-series from Through the Creative Door. Join Alexis and Sam as they dive into the timeless world of vinyl. For Alexis, vinyl was more than music. It was a Sunday ritual she shared with her dad, listening, talking and soaking in the stories behind each album and the artwork on every sleeve. Though her dad is no longer with us, she continues this tradition with her friend, sam Timmerman. Join them as they share their passion for vinyl and the stories these records hold.
00:53 - Alexis (Host)
Hello brother, good day, evening, night, how are you? Afternoon, the night, all of the things, somewhere, it's somewhere, it's glorious. Yeah, I'm good. How are you?
00:58 - Sam (Host)
I'm good, what are we doing?
01:01 - Alexis (Host)
What are we doing? We are going to chat music stuff, and what offering do you have for us to chitty chat about today?
01:12 - Sam (Host)
Well we have it here.
01:15 - Alexis (Host)
Wait, we've got 10 minutes.
01:18 - Sam (Host)
Oh yeah, we decided that we were going to talk for too long as well. For those of you playing at home, have we started the timer?
01:24 - Alexis (Host)
I started the timer.
01:26 - Sam (Host)
Good grief, here we go. Here's one I prepared earlier. I've had this for a long time. I say a long time, I think it's about two years, but that's a long time for some people. This is one of the first records I bought in recent times. It's called Rags to Rufus. This is a Rufus with Chaka Khan and I think my light is playing up. But look at that.
01:53 - Alexis (Host)
I love it. I love this album. I was so excited when you said what we're going to talk about because I was like I froth at this album. So good.
02:04 - Sam (Host)
I just got excited about the album art, but damn, it's good too.
02:09 - Alexis (Host)
So, like yes for those listening, you need to have a look at this Rags to Rufus and look at the vinyl artwork, because it is spectacular. What is that? It's like Sam's throwing it or shoving it into the camera.
02:27 - Sam (Host)
But hopefully, if I think, if I keep talking, people can see it, but that's OK.
02:32 - Alexis (Host)
You need to describe it with your words, Sam.
02:34 - Sam (Host)
Yes, we'll get. We'll get Ruby to put up a thumbnail of it somewhere.
02:39 - Alexis (Host)
Thanks, ruby.
02:41 - Sam (Host)
Somewhere about there on Alexis's face.
02:45 - Alexis (Host)
Hey.
02:46 - Sam (Host)
Look at this.
02:47 - Alexis (Host)
No, it's so beautiful, it looks like. Well, how would how? How did you describe it before you?
02:55 - Sam (Host)
It is physical needle art, it's not CGI, it's not graphically designed or anything. It is genuinely some what I'm thinking a pair of jeans. There's denim involved. There is more denim involved.
03:11 - Alexis (Host)
Hey, gotta love double denim, double denim.
03:15 - Sam (Host)
It was 1974,. I mean, and it's all needle stitched through, we have the name of the band in stitching.
03:23 - Alexis (Host)
Yeah, it looks sick.
03:28 - Sam (Host)
There are some oops. I can't hold these things. There are some badges here which are gorgeous, custom badges. It's all done in needlepoint through denim. Anyone who's a fashion designer, please tell me if that's hard or not, because I don't know.
03:41 - Alexis (Host)
Well, I can't sew to save myself, so I would say that it's just hard and on the back. Well, I can't sew to save myself, so I would say that it's just hard.
03:46 - Sam (Host)
And on the back we have an overlaid and comped in photo collage of the band added onto more fabric. Needlepoint that's been photographed.
03:56 - Alexis (Host)
Yeah, that's sick.
03:57 - Sam (Host)
It is. I don't know how people do this, but it's cool and I love it.
04:01 - Alexis (Host)
I'd be so interested to know what the thought process was for them when they decided for this to be the because, like the songs and the album, like it's such a banger, but I can't quite distinguish. Like what does it got to do with that kind of imagery, do you know?
04:23 - Sam (Host)
I do, I agree and I don't have an answer, because you think about through popular music, history and you go. Well, why do half of these album arts exist? Because they have nothing to do with what the music is. Do you reckon that's the point. I think that is the point, particularly with modern vinyl releases. I find myself looking at some album arts and going I love it, but why?
04:49
Yeah, and I find that really fascinating. I do love it. If you're going to make an album art that's this big, why not make it as outlandish as possible or give it some other meaning for people to ask questions on podcasts like we are right now?
05:07 - Alexis (Host)
Exactly I am trying to like google and try and see if anyone can tell me anything about the artwork. I can't find anything
05:16 - Sam (Host)
I only have a name. So far we are. We are google searching live as well for those playing at home Terri Apter-Hughes, who, after a quick search, I have nothing.
05:29 - Alexis (Host)
Right.
05:33 - Sam (Host)
If I was to do a longer search, I may find something and the art direction by a company called Autumn Dreams. And again we're talking 1974. This record is what? What's that now? 50 years this year.
05:43 - Alexis (Host)
Yeah, 50.
05:44 - Sam (Host)
Happy 50th Rags to Rufus
05:46 - Alexis (Host)
Happy 50th.
05:48 - Sam (Host)
Should have a party and play the record.
05:54 - Alexis (Host)
I mean, I did that when I was listening to it the other day as I walked down Chapel Street and sang my way down Chapel Street.
06:00 - Sam (Host)
No, you did tell me about that story. Was anyone on Chapel Street at about? I'm not going to say what time it was, because I don't know.
06:07 - Alexis (Host)
Yeah, yes, there is a lot of people down Chapel Street at that time of the day. There's probably video evidence somewhere of you, I mean look, no one knows who I am, so it's fine.
06:18 - Sam (Host)
You'd be surprised.
06:19 - Alexis (Host)
No.
06:20 - Sam (Host)
Oh my God, Alexis, stay low, stop, it's true, oh my God it looks like a snail. Oh, stop. It's true, people know you. Oh, that's a scary thought. People listening to this know you as well.
06:30 - Alexis (Host)
Oh God, that's even more of a scary thought. All right, so what is we're?
06:34 - Sam (Host)
Getting sidetracked again.
06:36 - Alexis (Host)
We are, but I feel like that is the nature of our relationship. 10 minutes, I was going to say 10 minutes, no, no, I was going to say what's your hot pick.
06:50 - Sam (Host)
It caught me out, but after 15, 20, 30 seconds of deliberation also make sure to stay hydrated. Everyone, excuse me. Right Street, I just went. Cool, that one Right Street Wrong Direction, just grooves.
07:07 - Speaker 1 (Announcement)
Yeah, opening beats.
07:11 - Sam (Host)
I'm more of a music listener than a lyric listener. I'm not good at hearing lyrics.
07:16 - Alexis (Host)
I am going to convert you as the singer-songwriter in me. You will, you will. By the end of our life together, you will be more of a lyric person.
07:27 - Sam (Host)
That's a slightly scary sentence to hear, but that's okay.
07:32 - Alexis (Host)
By the end of your life, you will be this yes, you will have come to the other side, and this is the timeline that you're going to be looking at to the end of your life.
07:40 - Sam (Host)
No, we Right Street I mean it's I don't know again. Title lyric Right Street, wrong Direction. A lot of fun. I will go listen to the lyrics again. Everyone, I'm so sorry, but I'm all about those horn lines and it was I think it was Ron Stockett, the lead vocalist for Rufus as the band itself, without Chaka, who did all the horn and string arrangements, which is great to see to see the band members themselves writing yeah, writing the arrangements. It's very, I feel like that's that was the norm in 70s, 80s in general, but it's so nice to hear records that are all internally done.
08:24
Yeah it's so nice to hear records that are all internally done. Yeah, not to say that there aren't some amazing songs and records made in the era of 50 songwriting credits, but at the same time, and I think that's the thing.
08:35 - Alexis (Host)
it doesn't matter how, as long as you're you're not doing a disservice to what's getting created, however many bodies it needs to create i.
08:44 - Sam (Host)
Exactly, that's it.
08:46 - Alexis (Host)
A way to say yeah, what a banging song. Yeah.
08:50 - Sam (Host)
What's yours, go on first in. You've got the love, mmm yep okay, no one ever listen to our singing, please, because we shout out to Tom Thumb he would do a whole lot better at that guitar sound not my forte.
09:15 - Alexis (Host)
But geez, and just those, those, those bloody vocal lines like the oh, sweeping, amazing, cuts through.
09:31 - Sam (Host)
And what got me with that one was, I mean again writing brain, not lyric brain, but what I would think about, as the chorus is two and a half minutes into the track. Once those backing vocals are in, I see that that's a chorus, but then so much happens before it, that's absolutely gold. I'm just picturing the YouTube watch history peek 25 seconds before the end of the track.
10:01 - Alexis (Host)
Or the kickoff. As I listen to the first track, it keeps you on your toes. And as a first song on a record. I'm just like constantly, like I absolutely adore tracks where it finishes and I'm like, no, no, I wasn't ready, I wasn't ready for it to finish, not ready.
10:19 - Sam (Host)
I challenge the musos out there who haven't listened to this record to put it on and start clicking the pulse as soon as you hear the start. Don't wait for the drums.
10:27 - Alexis (Host)
Yes, true, True, true true.
10:29 - Sam (Host)
Genius, absolute genius.
10:32 - Alexis (Host)
No, it's such a banger. But I mean, look side two, like as if no one's going to like tell me something good is like an absolute banger.
10:45 - Sam (Host)
We didn't say that this is the record that tell me something good comes from.
10:49 - Alexis (Host)
Yeah, so I don't know flip one side, flip the other.
10:54 - Sam (Host)
Every, every soul musician, every most cover band musicians, I reckon, have played that song sometime and speaks to the track where everyone just plays it like they heard it on the record. No one wants to change it.
11:07 - Alexis (Host)
I mean I'm not worthy to change. I mean, Stevie Wonder, bloody, wrote it. Yeah, exactly, do not touch. Perfection, don't touch. Oh my god, that's time, that's time.
11:24 - Sam (Host)
Down credits to Apple.
11:29 - Alexis (Host)
Hashtag not sponsored.
11:31 - Sam (Host)
Hashtag not sponsored. Stay hydrated Hashtag not sponsored.
11:36 - Alexis (Host)
Oh god, alright brother.
11:38
It's been a pleasure see you next time
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